Ramsay's Round
The Classic 24 Hour Scottish Challenge

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The recently released Harvey’s map entitled “Charlie Ramsay Round” (map scale 1:40,000. 2.5cm to 1km) is consistent with the maps they already produce for the Bob Graham and the Paddy Buckley rounds.

The main advantage is that one will only require 1 map which will cover the entire round, whereas with previous maps you had to rely on 2 maps for complete round cover.

Start and finish point

The round officially starts and finishes immediately outside Glen Nevis Youth Hostel. Only contenders who successfully complete the round within 24 hours clockwise or anti clockwise, starting and finishing at the Youth Hostel are eligible for inclusion into the Fell Runners Association (FRA) record books and onto the Finishers page of this website.

Supported attempt

Bobby Shields Mel Edwards & Charlie Ramsay 1978

Opinion falls heavily in favour of the use of a support team and carefully selected pacers.
By using this option, you always have a safety net to be applied in the event of anything unforeseen happening whilst on the hill.
Secondly if your support is in the form of pacers, they will also witness your arrival on every summit, carry your sack, assist with navigation and route finding and most importantly keep you in good spirit throughout the 24 hours.

Solo/Unsupported attempt

There is evidence that this round can be completed unsupported.
If this is the preferred option, you are reducing your safety margin by a very large degree.

Additionally, you must carry all of your food, drinks, foul weather clothing and other personal essential items for use on the hill.It is not recommended as an option worthy of favourable consideration, as the sack will have to be pretty full and heavy before departure, to include all of the necessary fuel for 24 hours of energy output, required to facilitate moving on the hill continuously.

Due to there being so many interpretations of Solo/Unsupported attempts e.g.
1 Doing part of the round supported and part unsupported.
2 Contenders completing the round together and claiming Solo/Unsupported.
3 Getting support at one or all of the Transition Areas (T As).
4 Getting food/fluid/equipment supplied whilst on the hill and being accompanied for a few miles/tops.

A specific definitive interpretation of Solo/Unsupported is difficult to define and manage, therefore provided a contender completes the round within 24 hours, all that will be recorded on the finishers page of this website will be their finishing number, finishing date, name, finishing time and direction C or AC.

The Solo/Unsupported column was removed in 2014.

Any additional text they wish to use to support their achievement can be reflected in their own Summary Report, their Facebook or Blog.

Food Drop

It has also been suggested that you can arrange for a food drop. i.e. drop off a package or packages at strategic locations around the route in a safe secure location on the hill for collection en route, thus reducing the quantity of fuel to be carried at any given time, and generally spreading the load carrying process more evenly, whilst on the round.

Night Section

Your chosen start and finish time may influence where the night section will be, that is the contender’s choice.
The carrying of a head torch is mandatory although ones eyes can adjust to travelling without the torch being used.
It is recommended that the selected night section is reccied during the hours of daylight to enhance familiarity of that section and to ease progression during the hours of darkness.

Round attempt: time of year

Pacers

Good pacers are an essential part of the team; they must be carefully selected for their suitability and good knowledge of their designated section.
They must appreciate that their task is to travel on a scheduled pace carrying fuel and clothing for themselves and you.
They must be capable of adjusting the pace to suit your needs, at all times.
Chatty to ensure that your mind is invariably on a lighter wavelength, focused and positive throughout.
They must fully appreciate their roll i.e. they are part of a support team for you and your needs, and that they are not contenders.

Commitment to proceed

You must be mindful that once you have committed to a departure time and date, with all your support team briefed as to their roles and responsibilities, it may prove difficult to change or slightly amend your arrangements in the event of bad weather, illness or whatever, more so if some of your support team have perhaps had to apply for leave from work and travel long distances in order to get to Lochaber.

Equipment to be worn or carried

Footwear

Despite the variations in terrain, running studs can be worn during the entire journey. In the interest of optimum comfort, the selection of good socks is also recommended; this could be further supplemented by a complete footwear change at the end of a section.

Clothing

To that end, the following attire is recommended to be worn or carried: Base Layer, Mid Layer, Outer Layer, Hat, Gloves and full Waterproofs to include a Hood.

Additional support options

Train Services

The use of the train has also been used to facilitate support options.

For example a train from Fort William to Corrour followed by a few kilometres walk jog or cycle to the south side of Loch Treig,

See Useful Contacts page

However due to the remoteness of this location, pre-booking is highly recommended.

Retiring pacers and support team can either return to Glen Nevis youth Hostel via a long Westbound trek to Glen Nevis or by train, from Corrour to Fort William, train timetable permitting.